Tool Talk #14: My Shop Vacuum Setup (ShopVac vs Festool CT26)

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20 Replies to “Tool Talk #14: My Shop Vacuum Setup (ShopVac vs Festool CT26)”

  1. The Long Life bag for Festool negates your comments regarding the cost of the bags. Lasts forever and will be cheaper than the ShopVac bags sooner, rather than later.

  2. I own this Festool vacuum and a Ridgid shop vacuum too. I don’t think that they are totally interchangeable for a lot of reasons. The variable speed of the Festool is really good with sanding as too much suction can cause problems with finer grits. The Festool vacuum just flat out works with my dust producing tools in usage. The shop vacuum with its higher flow is fantastic for cleaning up afterwards plus all of the other household uses a wet dry vacuum is needed. The Festool vacuum is also a rolling storage unit to hold their systainers which make access to items so much easier. The Festool vacuum hose is anti static, extremely flexible and just the right size. I use mine for sanding everything from wood to drywall mud with ease, with the Domino, tracksaw, mitersaw and Kreg pocket hole jig.

  3. Fest tools is low-quality low-grade high-dollar plastic their customer service is for the birds and less you want to dig in your wallet they don't stand behind the quality of their product unless you're willing to find out the faults of their product and repurchased the parts that break. Junk as far as I'm concerned way too expensive bought a vacuum cleaner for the same price 3 times larger good HEPA vacuum better than Festool

  4. Festool vacs are waaaay overpriced without a doubt, but there is no way a Shop vac (even HEPA rated) is the same quality and seals as well as the Festool. If there is one place to pay up with festool it's the vacuum.

  5. Great little video! I had just bought the same SHOP-VAC but hadn't opened it yet. I think I will now! 😎

  6. It would hurt me to say it too. 600 dollars for an off brand Shop Vac, what costs more than most tools tools it would be connected too.

  7. Literally found that same Shop-Vac at my local Goodwill for $29.99. So happy. Thanks for the filter heads up. Will keep that in mind.

  8. Great Video. It just amazes me every time I open my Ridgid 16-gallon vacuums after sucking up fine MDF and sawdust for 3+ yrs. of service and the Clean Stream filters are still spotless. DO NOT mess with other filters install a Clean Stream and you’ll never look back or ever replace it. This system is using a Oneida Cyclone, and Inter-bag Filters. The C.S. pleated filters never get dirty and very little goes in the inter bags. The Cyclone gets emptied typically 4 times to one inter bag change. 344 CFM and never loses suction – Ever! The Whole System (Oneida, Ridgid, iVAC) is a fraction of a Festool Vacuum and possibly 60% more suction. Obviously not too portable – Shop/Garage use only. It's hard to say if the 2) Ridgid vacs add up to 344 cfm as cheaper tools almost always over rate. The conclusion Festool is a far superior Vacuum but this system works extremely well and @ $100 each, there around $1,400.00 cheaper than two Festool vac’s, so more bang for your buck. To be fair as Tool Talk mention Vacuums should be rated by static pressure, not CFM which Ridgid does not state, part of the BS you find with cheaper tools. The Festool will also have a better HEPA rating which means absolutely nothing if you're not removing 100% of the contamination at the source which is almost never so if the vacuum is capturing 99.99% of what it does suck up but 5 – 15% escapes at the source then micron rating means nothing. Tool Talk points out the Sound Level issue. You should already be wearing hearing protection for tools much louder than the vacuums. You can also put a muffler on the Ridgids which drops the performance a little but using two vacuums it doesn’t matter. In order to make this system work you MUST purchase a Festool # 452898 Y-Adapter as it is the only one I could find that is an actual Y and not a T which is going to give you the needed 2 to 1 in but a T will affect performance. Tip: Don’t get sucked into ever buying a Professional version of Ridgid, Shop-Vac, etc.…. with out comparing them. In most cases you end up with a smaller hose size, same specs or worse, and higher cost, and what every you do above anything make sure Clean Stream ($30.00) makes a Gore-Tex filter for it. These things are worth their weight in gold and I would pay a $100.00 for one if that was the cost that much. They work that good. You can always get them back to new performance level. I also wouldn’t clean them with water as instructed. It is not necessary all you are doing there is clogging it with mud. A popsicle stick with a round end and air is all that is needed, or a vibrator of some sort.

  9. The Shop Vac doesn't have a HEPA filter, though. The Festool has a HEPA filter so it is A) removing dust and B) making the air cleaner, too! Festool also has a great replacement part service so it will last waaaaay longer than the shop vac.

  10. Festool is a scam
    The prices are ridiculous
    No way does the quality of their tools justify their prices.
    Makita, Milwaukee, and Bosch are way more than just sufficient for any and all tradesmen. I can purchase a Makita 10" dual bevel miter saw and a sweet driver/impact combo kit for pretty much the same price as the festool rotex sander (bare tool).
    What a joke

  11. I'm a firm believer in buying the best tools for your specific needs, but this whole 'Festool' universe boggles my mind. Regarding filters/bags – you can practically buy a dedicated shopvac style unit for each individual tool for the price of this thing and it's accessories! This company is geared to those guys with more money than sense and who Must have the (supposed) best of anything and everything just because. Hey, whatever floats one's boat, but I can't see any justification in spending 5-6 times more money for tools that perform the intended function. Note their branding color scheme — not surprisingly, quite similar to another overpriced re-invention of the wheel — 'Starbucks' and the $7. cup of coffee.

  12. You're such a reliable source of info on so many topics, so I'll start by thanking you for your work Jay. Now, my question. I need to make changes in my shop. I sanded a table top this week through 220 grit and now the shop looks like 1930's Oklahoma. It's alarming how much crap is going into the air, and while I wear a respirator, the dust is EVERYWHERE! I started looking at Festool bc it's considered state of the art for dust extraction. Do you feel the ShopVac does an adequate job of limiting clean up from sanders, routers, etc.? Honestly, Festool dollars would be worth the task of cleaning up the amount of dust I generate, and with the prospect of replacing a sander, I'm thinking of doing the entire Festool system, at least for that task. Can I assume other tools will work with the Festool CT, since I don't see a bunch of those gray tool boxes around your shop. The other issue for me is the attachment of various tools to dust extraction. Finding a proper hose fitting can be maddening, tape bushings or not. I go from small round to big round to rectangular. Again, thanks not just for this review, but for all the times you've been helpful when I have questions. Go Red Wings!

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